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Are Frank and Alice Longbottom dead, or are they in some sort of asylum, never to be released? I'm wondering because in the movies I hear references that they suffered a fate worse than death. There's also the fact that Neville can't see the thestrals, but if he wasn't present when his parents died, assuming they died, then he wouldn't have been able to. I think.

Just wondering. I haven't read Order.

Date: 2011-07-25 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marthawells.livejournal.com
They were driven mad by a cruciatus curse cast by Bellatrix LeStrange. I think they're in the big hospital that's mentioned occasionally.

Date: 2011-07-25 02:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
The scene where you encounter them is in Order of the Phoenix. In the book (and I think this happens in the movie, too), Harry, Hermione, and Ron are at St. Mungo's to visit Ron's father, and they wander accidentally into the ward for people who are permanently spell-damaged. They initially encounter Lockhart, and a nurse shepherds them in because Lockhart seems to pleased to see them.

But then they overhear Neville's voice and they turn and see him leaving with his grandmother, and you realize that Neville's parents are there. They don't recognize him and are non-verbal. After Voldemort's disappearance, his followers (including Bellatrix Lestrange) managed to lay hands on the Longbottoms and tortured them into insanity, trying to find out what they knew about where he'd gone.

It is possibly the most heartbreaking scene in all seven books.

Date: 2011-07-25 02:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
Also, there is a fandom theory that Neville was present when this happened, and the Ministry put a memory charm on him in an attempt to erase the trauma ... and that it was too powerful and permanently damaged his memory, and this is why he struggles so consistently at school.

Date: 2011-07-25 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristine-smith.livejournal.com
It's not in the movie. It would have been difficult to forget a scene like that.

Date: 2011-07-25 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phantomminuet.livejournal.com
No, but knowing about that scene in the book reveals just how vicious Bellatrix's comment to Neville in the Department of Mysteries really is.

Date: 2011-07-25 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristine-smith.livejournal.com
Oh, I do so want to see Bellatrix get hers.

Date: 2011-07-25 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nephir.livejournal.com
oh, LJ is sllooooowwww to respond tonight.

My understanding is that they were tortured into insanity and are locked away.

While I love the story lines of the books and movies I had to give up reading them about 1/3 of the way through book 5.

Date: 2011-07-25 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristine-smith.livejournal.com
I've read the first and the last. I think I read Chamber. I prefer the movies to the books, even though the books contain more detail.

Date: 2011-07-25 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] threeoutside.livejournal.com
You're missing a lot of great characters, though...

Date: 2011-07-25 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristine-smith.livejournal.com
I lost patience with them. Then I skipped from Chamber to Deathly Hallows, and DH drove me nuts to the point that it deadened my desire to read the others.

I may go back and try again at some point.

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