Date: 2008-04-24 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] affinity8.livejournal.com
Yay for Dean!

New Supernatural in eighty minutes!

Date: 2008-04-25 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
I wouldn't want to be him -- not when me and my friends have instituted the Dumber Than Dean Award for every episode we watch. I mean, God love 'im, but that boy does some STUPID things.

(We also have the Smarter Than Dean Award. And we cheer every time Dean wins it.)

Date: 2008-04-25 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristine-smith.livejournal.com
I think I watched one episode of that show. One of the guys was in love with a werewolf, and wound up killing her--am I thinking of the right show?

I confess that I didn't think it was very good.

Date: 2008-04-25 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
. . . oh. I assumed you were a fan, given the meme.

Watching one episode at random wouldn't give a very good sense of the show. I'd say that it's rarely brilliant, but it turns in a good, solid B+/A- episode every time (with one exception -- don't ever watch "Bugs"), and they do a much better job of handling long-term metaplot than The X-Files ever did. The Dean/Sam dynamic is fun, and it pulls the plot rug out from under you just often enough to keep things interesting. But mostly that's stuff that you see in the longer term.

The werewolf episode was on the weaker side as plots go; my enjoyment of that one focused more on what it meant emotionally to the main characters, in the context of what's been going on with them.

Date: 2008-04-25 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristine-smith.livejournal.com
I sometimes answer character quizzes about shows I know nothing about. No reason to expect anyone else to know this quirk--*g*--and pretty much a waste of time on my part because I don't really know what I've wound up being matched with. Good? bad? Indifferent? Did I just get matched up with the show's resident Renfield?

I loved X-Files for a time, but they did fall down at metaplot. Part of it was I think because Carter resented Millenium's failure and took it out on the more successful child. Most of it was, I think, a higher regard for the gotcha line/scene than an overall respect for Story. They thought they could get away with it, and they couldn't, and they kicked the show in response.

I'll never forgive or forget the lousy kiss-off they gave to Krycek. Almost as if they said, "you like him so damned much, well, we'll show you." There was a moment there that was wasted.

Date: 2008-04-26 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
I rarely do quizzes for things I don't know, because the answers mean nothing to me.

I feel like The X-Files is a giant house of cards, a lot of hand-waving from Carter -- he's constantly teasing us with what's behind the curtain, but deep down inside the magician's frantically trying to figure that out himself. And then most of the time when they answer stuff, I feel like it's a combination of wtf? + we already knew that.

Supernatural owes a lot to The X-Files (a fact they acknowledge), but they've moved on in a lot of ways. Rather than trying to tease you forever with the question, they answer it -- in a way that manages both to be satisfying and to generate further questions. Which is a pretty good trick.

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